Which Trache Tube?
14th April 04
Hi
I was wondering about the different hospitals preferences with the use
of the Portex Tracheostomy vs. the Shiley Tracheostomy and the reasons
why?
Level 5 (JFICM 2)
14th April 04
I'd be interested in replies to this too - I have always disliked the
stiff plastic and the bayonet fitting for the inner cannulae on the
Shiley, and I am thinking of switching MWAHS to Portex for these
reasons. The subglottic suction option is also only available on Portex
at present I understand...
Director of Intensive Care, Rural Level 5
Area Director of Critical Care Services, Mid Western Area Health Service
14th April 04
At RPAH we switched to the Portex about 18months ago. There has been no
problem with functionality of the tracheostomy tubes fen or non-fen,
the level of educational/clinical support from Boots (they make the
portex) is excellent, the subglottic suction option is available, the
percutaneous tracheostomy introducer sets (Ultraperc) have a tube
included making them cost effective compared to all of the components
required for a perc using the Cook brand and the medical staff liked
the Portex perc sets because of an improved introducer.
The only issues we had were:
1. the labeling of the tubes to distinguish fenestrated vs
non-fenestrated needs to be improved - it is not clear - the company is
aware but no action as yet
2. there were some concerns regarding the lubriciousness (new word from
Portex meaning slippery!) of the introducers in the perc sets but this
is over come by the technique.
I would suggest contacting Boots and asking for Jane Lytwyn to come and
see you if possible - she is one of their rep's and is excellent.
Statewide Coordinator,
Critical Care Services Planning NSW Health Department
15th April 04
Liverpool hospital switched to portex blueline when they were first
introduced This negated the necessity of a tube change prior to patient
transfer to the ward. The wards at Liverpool do not take trache tubes
with no inner cannula. Shiley tracheys are rarely used now. I agree
with Brett, contact Jane Lytwyn from Boots, Jane's after sales and
education services are
excellent
Equipment Coordinator Tertiary Referreal ICU
15th April 04
We switched about 2 years ago when portex finally made a decent
percutaneous trache kit that worked. We never liked the stiffness of
the Shiley, and it used to be one of the disadvantages of perc trache.
Director Level 6
18th April 04
Treena, the answer is a bit more complex than 'Portex' vs 'Shiley'. It
comes down to at least three things, ie materials, range of options,
and price, as well as your interpretation of the subglottic suction
literature (reasonably strongly positive but not rock solid).
1. Price is the easiest - the good old Shiley (Mallinkrodt) tubes are
the cheapest. From memory, [give or take $10 depending on how well you
negotiate] you are looking at about $50 vs between $70 and $90 per
tube. Need to also look closely [if you are a believer in coaxial tubes
(ie with inner cannulae)] whether your quoted price includes the inner
cannula or if that wil cost you more, and whether you are talking about
subglottic suction tubes or standard tubes.
2. Materials. The hard plastic of the 'good old Shiley' is a major
problem. Initially the strongest selling point of the Protex Blueline
range was the new thermoplastics being used. Other companies are now
coming on board and Mallinkrodt are now starting to roll out their
Shiley TracheoSoft range (think 'new Shiley') which equals the benefit
of the Portex Blueline. It's a little while since I spoke to the
Mallinkrodt rep and I don't know how expensive the TracheSoft tubes are
going to be.
3. Range of tubes. Traditionally the biggest selling point of the
Shiley range. They still have some features which are not matched in
other ranges. I have on my desk a Shiley TracheoSoft XLT (extra long
proximal extension, and they also have one with extra long distal
extension), specially designed for fatties and much better than the
'good old Portex' adjustable flange tubes. For most purposes either
brand will suit you. Don't forget also the place of specialist tubes
such as the Bivona FomeCuff which I use about once a year but really
need it when I need it!!
4. Subglottic suction. This almost warrants a monograph in its own
right. The concept was invented by Mallingkrodt in the form of the Evac
tracheostomy tube but took a while to catch on. The Evac is not
coaxial. The Portex Blueline Suctionaide was the first really good tube
for this purpose, which includes two inner cannulae for believers, and
also has a wire channel up the obturator which makes percutaneous
tracheostomy with it really easy. We adopted these routinely for all
ICU tracheostomies about a year ago. My NUM doesn't like it (as this is
the most expensive tracheostomy option) but the physios love the tubes.
Don't forget the evidence base for subglottic suction, though. The four
PRCTs all looked at early use of subglottic suction, in the first days
after intubation, and if you only adopt subglottic tracheostomy tubes
you are not actually following the evidence. There is only one long ETT
with a subglottic suction channel, the Mallingkrodt Evac. We use these
for all intubations in the ICU and it is the only tube on our
intubation trolley. I don't the risk / benefit equation supports
routinely changing the tubes of patents who arrive pre intubated,
however. Again cost is an issue - as a low volume item the long Evac
tubes are about $15 [rough figures] whereas a Portex HiLo tube on
government contract is about $3. Beware also if you follow this path,
the suction channel impinges on the inner lumen and it is difficult to
fit a 5mm OD bronchoscope through a 7mm ID Evac tube.
Staff Specialist Tertiary Referral
20th April 2004
At XXX we trialed the Portex and found that they were difficult to
clean especially if the sputum was tenacious. We also found that on the
wards where nurses have more than one patient to care for, the cleaning
(shaking the inner cannula in saline as advised by the rep) was too
time consuming. Therefore often not being done properly. In ICU we also
found that the ring pull attachment came off at times and we found that
the trache became disconnected very easily from the ventilator tubing.
Consequently we have stayed with the Shileys when the patients are sent
to the wards.
Whilst in ICU we use the single lumen Mallinkrodt and have no problems
with disconnection, ventilation and cleaning. Shileys also have a tube
with subglottic suction.
CNC Tertiary Referral
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